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Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-15 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mozgoved.livejournal.com
I don't want to raise my kids in a society with ambiguous definitions of family.

1. If your kids are heterosexual, they will stay this way, don't worry about this. If your kid(s) is homosexual, you won't change that even if same-sexual marriage will be banned.

2. Why would a definition "union between two human beings" be too ambiguous?

Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-15 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrs-paramon.livejournal.com
So how far would your union of 2 human beings go? 2 men? 2 women? A man and a 6-year-old girl? Can we re-classify apes as human beings? Will the liberals allow Bush to stay married because they don't think he is a human being.

Btw, I don't view homosexuality as a disease. I have had many gay friends and I never had any problems with them. I just don't like the idea of taking one of the oldest and most sacred traditions and twisting it into something else.

Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-16 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bagira.livejournal.com
I really don't understand why the gay marriage is viewed as a proverbial "slippery slope." Where does it say that gay marriage must necessarily lead to legalization of child molestation or beastiality? Neither children, nor animals are viewed as marriageable on principle because they are NOT COMPETENT HUMAN ADULTS. I fail to see how allowing gays to marry would endanger 6-year-old girls. I think it's a monster-in-the-closet argument. And as for "will the liberals allow Bush to stay married because they don't think he is a human being"--ha. ha. ha. Funny.

Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-16 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tima.livejournal.com
stop using a term "gay marriage"! There is no such thing!!!

Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-16 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dyak.livejournal.com
The correct name is same-sex marriage.

AFAIK, gay men and women always could and still can marry everywhere in the US as long as they marry people of the opposite sex.

Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-16 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tima.livejournal.com
а вот с этим определением вполне соглашусь

Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-16 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debedb.livejournal.com
Stop using the term "There is no such thing". There is no such thing!

You sir, are full of shit.

Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-16 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tima.livejournal.com
one more comment like this or like the one you've left for my friend and you go to clean that shit.

Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-17 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debedb.livejournal.com
The Herculean task would be so much more pleasant if I'd known
that the shift was left by your bursting from self-importance.
Ma gavte la nata, Mounsieur Tima, Ma gavte la nata. Go measure your small dick again, if it's grown - it's all that shit...

Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-17 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tima.livejournal.com
научишься разговаривать, извинишься, посмотрю на твое поведение. А пока общайся с себе продобными, дятел.

Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-19 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mozgoved.livejournal.com
There is no such thing as a state of Massachussetts as well?

Re: частично из-за этого

Date: 2004-07-19 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mozgoved.livejournal.com
==sorry for late reply==

"Two adult human beings" -- how does that sound? The 6-year old girl cannot marry, due to quite a simple fact that she, just like the ape, does not realize the repercussions of her actions.

Bush, by far, is a human being, even though in his mental capacity he does sometimes remind me of a 6-year old girl, but that's beyond the point. I appreciate your wit.

"Most sacred traditions"... Could you come down from the tribune and look around? Traditions must accept change. Fifty years ago interracial marriage, for example, was preposterous - would you identify it as a twist of tradition as well?

Bottom line: I do not understand why two adult people who love each other and want to share the rest of their lives together should not be able to marry each other.

bottom line:

Date: 2004-07-19 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tima.livejournal.com
tired to explain - when the two people are the same sex it's not a marriage. It's a union of some kind. Marriage is completely different thing no matter what the Supreme Jugdes say or whoever if you will. For me - it's different, that's all. And I explained many times - I don't want to be in the same compartment for that matter with the same-sex people. I am not against them, I am not against their unions, but it's not marriage.

Speaking of trhditions - I don't think a marriage is a tradition, we arguing about a term. That's all.

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